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-- Yeah.
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-- Mhm.
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-- This is lead 12 12 a podcast on christ centered leadership based on romans 12 12,
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-- rejoice in hope, be patient tribulation, be constant in prayer.
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-- Thanks for listening. Here's Dave and chris
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-- Oswald Chambers summed it up well,
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-- if I am devoted to the cause of humanity only I will soon
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-- be exhausted and come to the place where my love will falter.
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-- But if I love jesus christ personally and passionately,
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-- I can serve humanity though.
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-- Men treat me as a doormat,
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-- Bob Russell and his book, 50 Years of Ministry, Wow!
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-- You know when you're being treated as a doormat,
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-- that is a perfect time to hear that it happens to all of us.
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-- But wow we can still serve humanity through men.
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-- The men treat me as a doormat that's
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-- beautiful and you know
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-- in our pre talking of all this stuff we were talking,
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-- I mean the purpose of what we live for is to give God glory and no you,
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-- no matter what happens or what we've been through God can use that.
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-- Even in those very painful hurt moments,
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-- especially in
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-- those moments when
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-- you don't feel him,
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-- he'll come to you in places you never dreamed of?
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Uh
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Amen
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-- Romeo me!
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-- So we're excited. We're fired up. We got some good stuff to talk about. Yes, we do.
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-- So chris tell us, what are we talking about today?
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-- Well, Dave today,
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-- we're talking about the path goal method of
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-- leadership And I've got a question for you.
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-- Have you ever had a leader that made you want to be better.
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-- Yes. Not just one that demanded better this from you, but made you want to be better.
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-- Absolutely. Isn't that the ultimate goal of
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-- leadership?
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-- It really
-- is not just to get the results, but to make each person on the team better.
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-- Amen. Well, that's the goal of path goal method. Leadership,
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-- What is path goal theory?
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-- Path goal method is a highly acclaimed theory of
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-- leadership that was developed in 1971 by Robert House.
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-- The Path Gold method says that a leader should engage in behavioral
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-- patterns that will complement and compensate
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-- for the deficiencies of the follower.
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-- The success or the failure of the team is placed
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-- directly on the shoulders of the leader in this theory.
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-- And that's one of the things that this theory has with very few other theories.
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-- Everything that happens on the team is a success or failure on the leader.
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-- Amen, wasn't it? Harry, Truman said, the buck stops here, that's it.
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-- And it's got at some point we need to be as leaders accountable, that we say we're in,
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-- we're gonna do it, we're gonna make this better, we're gonna be better.
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-- True and it's so easy for the leader to
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-- blame the followers and that's usually what happens.
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-- But the truth is a good leader could take the same
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-- team and make a success where other people have failed.
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-- So the goal of the path goal leader is to empower and motivate the follower.
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-- So the follower becomes involved more active, more efficient and thereby
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-- more productive.
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-- Essentially the role of the path goal leader
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-- is to nudge the followers towards improvement.
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-- You and I had a discussion about nudging the followers of nudging people
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-- towards improvement and how God has done that in each of our lives.
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-- Absolutely.
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-- And and you know, we have to let God do that and sometimes it's not the way we want it,
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-- but it's the way he's designed it
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-- and God's design for your life is better than anything that you can do
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-- that. Yes, that praise time when you get those moments where you know
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-- God is the only reason I'm doing any of that change the whole world.
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-- Okay,
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-- so now we decided that path goal leadership is good because it forces the
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-- leader to take accountability and we understand what the idea is behind it,
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-- but what are the steps of Path goal theory?
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-- Path goal theory is not a leadership method with training programs,
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-- you won't find a seminar like how to improve your path gold,
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-- leadership that doesn't exist.
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-- What path gold does is provide a
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-- set of recommendations based on the characteristics
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-- of the followers and also the characteristics of the task and from this,
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-- the leader chooses one of the four
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-- appropriate leadership behaviors to assist the follower,
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-- We look at the followers
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-- individually,
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-- we look at the team and then we look at the task and we see
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-- which approach to take and it could be a different approach with each follower.
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-- Gotcha.
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-- So what are the leadership behaviors?
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-- Path goal theory uses four leadership behaviors to motivate the follower.
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-- Those are the direct leadership, supporting leadership,
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-- Participative leadership and the achievement oriented leadership.
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-- So let's discuss each of those briefly.
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-- Direct leadership gives the followers task
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-- instructions like what's expected of them,
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-- how to do the task and what the task timeline is.
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-- Direct leadership provides exact expectations
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-- and remove all ambiguity so the followers will have the clarity to focus on the task.
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-- What do you think of direct leadership?
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-- I think I think for me that's a hard one, that's not where I'm at as a leader,
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-- but I understand people that have this,
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-- I think it's hard to get get that availability from your people though.
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-- If you're just basically dictating what they should do,
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-- you're not letting them be creative and that can be an
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-- issue.
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-- It is, it takes all creativity right out and you're exactly right about that.
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-- I can think back to the times I was involved in direct
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-- leadership and my very first job was I worked at Mcdonald's for,
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-- I worked there for a year making Quarter pounders and moved up to french fries.
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-- But that was yeah, that was direct leadership, There was no creativity there.
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-- This is how you make the quarter pounder.
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-- We expect it to be done in this amount of time and that's all the instruction,
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-- there was really,
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-- I had no idea that you did that.
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-- Yeah, yeah, maybe after we get done here, we'll have you fixed one.
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-- I'll show you my expertise. Yeah. Hey man, then after I make it a broken
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-- back.
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-- Oh my aching bag.
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-- Okay. All right.
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-- So the next leadership behavior of path goal theory is supporting leadership.
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-- This is the one that usually I'm naturally drawn to.
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-- The supporting leader will be friendly and approachable as a leader and
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-- attending to the well being and human needs of the followers.
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-- Supporting leaders go out of their way to make work pleasant for the
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-- followers and this gives the followers the confidence they need to succeed.
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-- Supporting leaders treat followers as equals and give them respect.
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-- I like this one. And I'm gonna tell you in just a couple of minutes why?
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-- Because there's a lot to this.
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-- And I think in today's church we're not using this enough.
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-- Um, we have pastors who want to be stars that that preach on sunday morning instead of
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-- pastors that are doing some pastoring and shepherding.
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-- I think it has to be both and I know I can
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-- get criticized for what I just said that I get it.
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-- It's true. It's so true.
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-- But one of the things that this point brings up is people want want to be encouraged,
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-- They want to be built up.
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-- Um, I think the best thing we have is God's word to encourage
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-- Barnabas was the son of encouragement.
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-- He worked every way he could to make people feel better when they left
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-- and that's our goal.
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-- I mean,
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-- do people feel good when they when they leave you knowing that maybe you
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-- give God all the glory and maybe they can do that as well.
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-- Amen to that. That's
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gonna
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-- keep your waiters and
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-- waitresses. So that was supportive leadership.
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-- And so many times in my life,
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-- God has been a supportive leader to me every time I've needed him, he's been there,
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-- he's picked me up.
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-- He takes care of me all the time and I just can't
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-- say what that means to me that we have such a loving God.
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-- Amen.
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-- So the next is the participative leadership.
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-- A participative leader consults with the followers about
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-- the decisions and this type of leader gets
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-- their ideas and opinions and then uses this
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-- information about how the team will proceed.
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-- This results in increased team performance
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-- through following participation in shared goals.
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-- So when a change happens or a decision needs to be made,
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-- the participative leader brings it to the group and says, okay,
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-- what does everybody think of this?
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-- How do we move forward as a team? And what's the ideas and
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-- thoughts?
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-- I think that's great. I think it's really good leadership
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-- and I do think it's important that we do that.
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-- I think it's important that we hear what people are
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-- going through and what we can do to help them
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-- do better at their job because when they do better, we do better. That's the goal.
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-- It can't be um I don't want them to do as good as me. Yeah, you do.
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-- If you're doing your job right, it'll change everything and that's, that's the key.
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-- You want everyone to do better because when, when that happens,
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-- the product that you could put out there for, for whatever it is,
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-- um it gives glory.
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-- It's so true. Amen.
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-- And you know,
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-- one of the requirements whenever I interview someone
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-- or hire them for my team because you have
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-- to be smarter than me because I want people who can do things that I can,
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-- people who can figure things out that I can't,
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-- I will not be working for chris any
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-- time and then after I get them, Hey
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-- wow,
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-- this went dark quick. Thank
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-- you. Sorry, sorry about that.
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-- Oh no,
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-- I guess one of Sophie's favorite one.
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-- Okay, the last leadership type of the path.
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-- Gold leadership is the achievement oriented leader and this is a
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-- leader who challenges followers to perform at their highest possible level.
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-- They said a high level of excellence and they seek continuous improvement.
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-- The achievement oriented leader shows the team they
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-- have a high level of confidence and that
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-- the leader is sure the followers can achieve their goals and when I think of this,
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-- I think of a lot of sales,
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-- I think of anything that has a performance metric where the top leader
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-- of the top performer gets a bigger bonus or something like that.
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-- Right? It's goal oriented. Absolutely.
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-- One of the downsides of this is people can burn out if they're
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-- continually pressured to improve and do better and meet higher and higher demands.
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-- they will burn out and then maybe they need to go to
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-- a supportive team for someone to build them right back up
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-- And I think honestly, you can't live in that fourth model.
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-- No, because if you, if you do, it'll break you.
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-- Um, I think really would be your best model.
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-- I love to because I'm naturally bent that way, but either one I think it's okay.
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-- One in four dangerous to me from what I heard you say and what I'm hearing you say.
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-- And um, for me,
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-- I think it's important that we understand that our best
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-- way to do things is with a team together,
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-- building each other up
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-- and watch what God
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-- does Each of these four have a place,
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-- There's times to use each of these four, but I couldn't agree more two and three,
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-- you will get the most respect the most loyalty, the most love from your employees.
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-- They will do everything they can, they will,
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-- if you've heard the term bend over
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-- backwards will absolutely bend over backwards for
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-- you if they feel that you love them and you care about
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-- them.
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-- I would not bend over backwards, but I would try to do that as best I could if I did that,
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-- I'd end up in the hospital with my aching back, oh my back.
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-- There we go.
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-- yeah, we'll be
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-- here, we'll be here every week, tip your waiters and waitresses.
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-- Okay, so whatever we know about path gold,
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-- we understand the four leadership behaviors.
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-- When do we use the path goal behaviors?
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-- So let's start with directive,
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-- we use the directive leadership with inexperienced workers.
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-- These are people who first get there
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-- any time there's an urgent matter.
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-- Directive leadership also works very well and non negotiable issues
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-- that works really well and believe it or not,
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-- there are people out there who prefer this.
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-- They prefer a tight structure with no ambiguity.
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-- They want to know everything about their job,
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-- they want to know exactly what's expected of them and then they're good,
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-- that's all they care about.
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-- So that's when directive leadership works well,
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-- The next one is participative leadership and its most successful
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-- that require minimal management and oversight
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-- So these are people that want to be included. They know how to do their job.
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-- It does make sense.
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-- achievement oriented leaders work best with followers that have high motivation
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-- So what's the advantages of path goal theory? Uh Number one is very practical,
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-- places the burden of leadership on the leader, which sounds like common sense,
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-- It places the burden of leadership on the leader and demands the leader have
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-- a clear path to the goal and help the followers with the obstacles.
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-- In other words, if a member of the team is failing,
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-- Again, if the team succeeds, it's completely on the leader and if the team fails,
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-- it's on the
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-- The last advantage of the path goal theory is,
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-- it's straightforward and it's easy to learn and follow.
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-- If you can tell where each of your employees fall, then you know,
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-- the approach to take and how to get more out of them.
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-- Hey man.
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-- And let me say this,
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-- it has to come from the heart,
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-- you can't fake a relationship with an employee. They're very smart.
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-- I've seen so many other people try to do this.
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-- I've actually seen people that keep spreadsheets with their employees names,
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-- their family names, their Children's names,
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-- but they know when you care about them and when they
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-- don't,
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-- that's great chris that's so important to it is and I do think they do know that.
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-- Well, let me ask you this, have you ever had a supervisor or a superior
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-- I have and you knew it didn't Yeah, Absolutely.
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-- Have you had any that didn't care about you?
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-- Absolutely. I was a Kroger employee.
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-- I used to bag when they had real bag. Oh my gosh,
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-- actually, we're going back to it a little bit now. But yeah, so in that job
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-- So they yeah, they very rarely built you up,
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-- but they didn't and that's ok.
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-- They didn't care about themselves.
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-- They were in a situation,
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-- come back every day,
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-- I'm sure you may have even had some who didn't care
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-- through that absolutely too smart for
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-- So let's discuss the disadvantages of path goal theory
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-- number one and this is an important one.
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-- If the leader can't perform this correctly, the team doesn't have a chance.
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-- a one way event make the followers dependent on the leader.
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-- Sometimes you have a lot of smart people out there.
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-- I don't have a lot of smart people on my team and when they say to do something,
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-- You are and you absolutely are. That's correct.
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-- This is one of the criticisms, it can make them dependent on you.
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-- The participants style is usually not bad for that.
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-- But directive certainly is like if you were to take a directive,
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-- That makes sense. I get it.
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-- there's just not enough time in the day for that,
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-- not for sure.
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-- So that is path gold leadership.
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-- That's great.
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-- Our scripture for today is Romans 12 9 through 13 if you know about us.
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-- Sometimes I think we take that little text and we
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-- Let love be genuine. See, I think that's one thing that we have to,
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-- we have to be our authentic self. I can't be somebody else.
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-- I gotta be dave and I got to be the best day of God created
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-- me to just hit on,
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-- let love be genuine
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-- about who or what is evil.
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-- That literally means hate, what is evil? Hey, what is bad?
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-- Hold fast to what is good, love one another with brotherly affection man
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-- Outdo one another in showing honor, wow,
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-- that's your achievement oriented right there.
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-- I'll do one another. That's pretty good well and show in honor.
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-- So I'm gonna do my best to show honor more than you show me
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-- and then all of a sudden you get everybody buildings that are up.
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-- I love that do not be slothful in zeal. Be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord.
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-- Here we go, rejoicing hope. Um the patient and tribulation be constant in prayer,
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-- contribute to the needs of the saints and seek to show hospitality Amen.
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-- So that one part rejoice and hope. That's praise. That's praise.
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-- That's given him everything patient and tribulation. That's piece.
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-- You know when we're patient and how many do you like that word?
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-- No,
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-- but if we're a good leader we have to hold on
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-- to that word sometimes and we do have to be patient.
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-- So you know that's one of the things praise patient and be constant in prayer.
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-- It's the three ps We love it.
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-- We try to put it out there, that's what lead 12 12 is prayer praise
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