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-- Yeah,
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-- this is lead 12 12 a podcast on christ centered
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-- leadership based on romans 12 12 rejoice in hope,
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-- be patient tribulation, be constant in prayer.
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-- Thanks for listening. Here's Dave and chris
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-- the greatest leader is not necessarily the one who does the greatest things.
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-- He is the one that gets the people to do the greatest things. Ronald Reagan.
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-- That's a beautiful quote, I love that and it's so true
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-- a man, it is true. And I think
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-- one of the things that we have to look at as leaders is how do we motivate
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-- people to get on board to see the mission at hand and get excited about it?
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-- And sometimes that's easy, Sometimes that's hard as a minister.
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-- I find that to be a little easier because I know
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-- what motivates me and that's jesus christ and when that's what
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-- then you can do more things.
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-- Yeah,
-- and that's a great quote, I want to remember that one. That's a very good quote
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-- Ronald Reagan. There you go.
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-- He had a lot of them.
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-- He did absolutely.
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-- So Dave last week we talked about emotional intelligence and
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-- that wrapped up our discussion of the trade based leaderships.
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-- If you were going to build a leader based on personality traits. Right?
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-- So now we're going to start talking about skills based leadership.
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-- What are the skills that someone needs to be a good leader.
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-- These are things that they can learn.
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-- Absolutely.
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-- So this is good, this is good stuff. I hope you,
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-- I hope we are helping you.
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-- I hope that we're teaching you one thing that chris and I
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-- want to make sure you know on our website you can take.
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-- Um I think you got a quiz that you were putting on
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-- their last week,
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-- we had a quiz for the emotional intelligence and
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-- this week we've got a quiz for the skills based
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-- leadership theory.
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-- You can log in to take the test and see how
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-- you rate with the skills that are important to leaders.
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-- We'd love to get to know you.
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-- So give us that opportunity and we'll do all
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-- we can to help you and your leadership journey.
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-- That's absolutely right at their lead. 12:12.com.
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-- So what does lead leadership?
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-- Skills based leadership?
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-- Give us skills based leadership teaches us and gives us four things.
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-- It provides a way to delineate or identify the skills of a leader.
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-- In other words, what skills are important to be a leader.
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-- It applies to all leaders and all organizations,
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-- meaning the lowest level leader to the highest level leader.
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-- These same skills, apply
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-- the skills inventory can provide insights
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-- into the individuals leadership competencies.
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-- It can tell us, in other words, if you're good somewhere, if you need help somewhere
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-- And the test scores allow the leaders to learn about areas when they can
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-- seek further training and better themselves in a good way to do that.
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-- Lead 12:12.com.
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-- Hey, there's a
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-- plug. Maybe we should have did this
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-- one. Uh
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-- My daughter said we used to many last time we're gonna even use more?
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-- Yeah,
-- yeah, we are so excited,
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-- take that. Thank
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-- you. Thank you very
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-- much, tip your waiters
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-- And waitresses.
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-- Okay, so you get me going.
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-- The skills approach is predicated on the notion that leaders
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-- possessed certain abilities that enable him or her to lead,
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-- makes that makes common sense, right?
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-- It does. This was developed by a person named Robert Katz way back in 1955,
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-- wow With his studies,
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-- he determined that there's three skills that the
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-- effective leader must have and must continually developed.
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-- Those are technical skills, human skills and conceptual skills.
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-- So the key that you're saying there that I'm getting is you
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-- have to grow and john john Maxwell says change is inevitable,
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-- growth is optional, so you're going to change,
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-- it's up to you if you want to grow and you've got to have that desire,
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-- you gotta have that want
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-- um, it's with anything and I gotta be honest with you.
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-- Sometimes I think we just,
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-- we kind of get stale and we forget that we still got to work on these skills that
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-- God has given us to be better leaders to help each other to build each other up.
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-- You know, it's all about foundational building and once you do that, it can change
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-- your perspective on anything when you're
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-- encouraging and building someone up and that's really one of the
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-- things that we want to do for you there listening,
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-- how can we encourage, how can we build, how can we help you in your ministry or in your,
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-- your job or in your whatever to make you uh,
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-- see that you can do better for people and become a better leader.
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-- Does that make
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-- sense? It makes perfect sense.
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-- And I think the way john Maxwell said that it was so beautiful,
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-- growth is optional.
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-- How many times have someone got a decent job and they
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-- decided this is as far as I'm going to go,
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-- I don't need to improve anymore, but that's
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-- never true and it's going
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-- to change it is.
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-- Yeah, it's always
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-- just a fact and whether it's ministry, whether it's business,
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-- whether it's
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-- weight lifting, whatever it is,
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-- something about that's going to change and be a
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-- little bit different and you can learn how to,
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-- to, to,
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-- to grow better. Is that a right term?
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-- I don't know if that's the right term, but grow,
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-- we'll go with that.
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-- Yeah, but
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-- yeah, yeah, ladies and gentlemen,
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-- I want to grow better. That's my t shirt for this week,
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-- Dave, I'm Gonna Grow Back 2021.
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-- There we go.
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-- Ladies and gentlemen, so let's talk about these three skill sets,
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-- let's start with technical skills, what what is technical skills,
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-- obviously it's the knowledge and proficiency of, of a particular field,
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-- but this field has to relate to what you're doing,
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-- like if I were going to be a supervisor of engineers
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-- and I happen to play a great heart or something that
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-- wouldn't be a good technical skill for me to have.
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-- I would have to have technical skill in engineering to
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-- be able to understand what they're doing and help them.
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-- Not that I wouldn't want to hear you play the harp.
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-- Maybe I should have said harmonica,
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-- I just don't see
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-- you playing a harm That that would be,
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-- I don't have that skill.
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-- You
-- always think of heaven a little like that, don't you? Yeah. Playing heart.
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-- But I've never pictured you to be that person. That was amazing.
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-- That's not me.
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-- Well, I
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-- Yeah,
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-- thank you. So we're back to technical skills.
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-- Technic technical skills is the only of the skill sets that interacts with objects.
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-- This is one where you have to be good with whatever you're doing.
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-- If it's if it's flipping hamburgers, which I did, that if it's fighting, which I did,
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-- that if it's leading people, that's something that I've done as well.
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-- But the technical skill in this area is interacting with objects.
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-- Amen
-- the technical abilities are critical
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-- for the entry and mid level management when you're the top level manager,
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-- technical skills is not as important,
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-- but if you're managing directly managing people
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-- or managing people that manage people.
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-- Mid level manager technical skills are very important and the last one for the
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-- technical skills is what we just discussed that upper and senior level managers.
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-- Technical skills are not as important because you're more concerned
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-- with the big picture than the individual jobs everyone does.
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-- Let's move on to human skills. Human skills is the capacity to interact with others.
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-- If you have good human skills,
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-- you're able to establish a trusting environment and where the employees
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-- facilities and they're empowered to contribute and do their best.
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-- Yeah, this one I think I feel more comfortable in, if I'm honest with you, as far as
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-- my leadership skills,
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-- I feel kind of falls in that
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-- you have fantastic human
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-- skills and here's the best part checks
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-- in the mail.
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-- Thanks.
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-- You know,
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-- it
-- is the human skills is the only skill
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-- set that is critical at all three management levels,
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-- lower middle and senior.
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-- So human management skills you could argue are the most important.
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-- Well, you you can't motivate people if you don't understand
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-- that. So true.
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-- Absolutely, so true.
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-- So there you go,
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-- how many times have you heard that
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-- the beatings will continue until morale improved?
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-- There it is, that's true.
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-- I mean, we need to understand that,
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-- that the best way we can understand our leadership,
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-- those who are leading is to understand those who we are leading,
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-- um try absolutely, you know, to have empathy, to understand them to, to
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-- learn how to encourage them in their walking in their journey.
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-- Human skills, that's that's probably if you've ever had a good boss,
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-- they've had high human skills,
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-- chances are no matter if they have good technical skills,
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-- if they don't have the human skills, you wouldn't consider them a good person,
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-- I got you.
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-- So let's move on to the last one, the conceptual skills,
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-- this is the capacity to work with concepts and ideas,
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-- these are the people that create visions,
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-- strategic plans and they establish a course of action and the higher
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-- you go up the career ladder and the more important this becomes,
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-- so as you can imagine as you climb the career ladder,
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-- technical skills become less and less important to hire you go
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-- and conceptual skills become more and more important as you go,
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-- That makes sense. It does, it makes total sense.
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-- So here's an interesting concept about the skills approach,
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-- there's different combinations for different levels of
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-- leadership and we went through this briefly,
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-- but let's hit on this a little bit more.
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-- For example,
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-- a good supervisor has to have very high
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-- technical skills along with very high human skills,
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-- but the conceptual skills doesn't matter so much,
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-- they don't need to be able to set the company's vision
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-- or make sure that everyone in the company is on the
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-- same page and we're all fighting for the same thing,
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-- that's the people higher up the chain of responsibility.
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-- Like we're a good manager needs to have moderately high technical skills,
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-- not as much as the low level manager
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-- and moderately high conceptual skills, but not as much as the top level manager,
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-- but they have to have excellent human skills,
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-- a middle level manager has to have great communication,
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-- has to be able to build environment for people feel trust and empowered,
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-- that's all that it takes to be a good mid level manager
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-- and let me ask this again,
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-- these are all things that we can get better at correct.
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-- Absolutely, and we just have to learn how to strive to
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-- to get our people skills and to learn these these concepts.
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-- I think it will change everything if you have a desire to do that
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-- and doesn't mean that you have to get your PhD like chris I mean,
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-- don't get me wrong,
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-- he's got it,
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-- he's it's
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-- pretty impressive, but thank you, that's funny,
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-- but the desire to want to grow to want to learn to
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-- want to be a better leader just comes from that heartfelt,
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-- I'm going to do better, I'm gonna be better.
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-- Um and I think
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-- you have to have that passion,
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-- you have to have that one and that's what I want to encourage you today is um
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-- a lot of this leadership stuff is just desire.
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-- If you have that desire, I think you can you can step it up and learn,
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-- you know,
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-- that the first step would obviously be to learn the areas that you
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-- need help with and you can do online quizzes to do that,
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-- you can get people to give you feedback if you have
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-- people that you trust and will be honest with you,
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-- ask them what areas you need help with, whether it's the technical skills,
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-- if it's the human skills or if it's a
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-- conceptual skills and those can easily be improved on.
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-- You
-- can't let your feelings get hurt and I struggle with this.
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-- If I'm honest, sometimes if somebody says, well you need to do this better,
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-- I just want to say, well you need to get a haircut.
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-- Mhm.
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-- That's not right.
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-- You got to be able to not where you're, you know,
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-- chris you mean you as much as said in that last paragraph,
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-- you have to understand the importance of
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-- it's okay that you're not okay,
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-- you're not doing this as good as if you're doing it as good as you can.
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-- There's still something else. You can change its
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-- constant growth
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-- again.
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-- Growth is essential.
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-- Um It's one of the most important things that we have to desire to do. So anyway,
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-- there's my two
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-- Yeah, and it was all good stuff could begin on that. Thank you.
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-- The last of the skills combination is for the top
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-- manager and a good top manager needs very high human
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-- skills because they have to interact with everyone from the
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-- board of directors down to the Trustees to everyone.
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-- They also need high conceptual skills, this is where they do the visions,
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-- the missions,
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-- the planning everything that's gonna be happening and they have to be able
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-- to get the employees buy in and everyone's on the same page,
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-- but the top level manager does not necessarily have to have high technical skills.
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-- They don't need to know the nuts and bolts of how things get done.
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-- They concentrate on the bigger picture
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-- motivators,
-- motivators is exactly a way to put that.
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-- Yes, they need to be the cheerleaders.
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-- The coach's the people that make you want to get out there and do your best.
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-- Yeah.
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-- And scripturally who you would want to look to and learn from his Barnabas.
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-- He was absolutely son of encouragement.
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-- You know, the things that he did was he built, he built people up. He would, he would
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-- teach them and love on them and show them grace and God blessed his ministry.
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-- And he was called the son of encouragement. So that's a pretty good name. Yes, it is.
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-- You can call me that. I'd be okay with it. So
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-- I've been called a lot worse. Yeah.
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-- We're not going to get all the different names that we can go in there.
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-- A son of Yeah, no, let's go. A son of encourage
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-- right?
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-- There you
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-- go.
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-- So dave, let's say that this is really resonated with you.
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-- You've decided that of all the leadership theories.
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-- You're going to embrace the skills based leadership theory, the skills approach.
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-- What are the advantages of this?
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-- The first one is this was the very first approach to
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-- conceptualize and structure the leadership process around skills before this,
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-- we knew leaders had skills but we didn't know what they were,
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-- it was it wasn't important.
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-- This was the very first one to say these are
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-- the skills that are important to be a leader.
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-- It was groundbreaking in the time. That's amazing. Yeah.
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-- One of the second advantages is by defining the leadership in terms of abilities.
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-- Suddenly leadership becomes available to everyone if you weren't a leader,
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-- but you wanted to be a leader.
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-- Here's the skills you work on now. You're a leader.
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-- Yeah. And I think
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-- that's something that I think any of us can, can catch on if we want it.
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-- Um you just gotta have again
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-- desire,
-- desire is it?
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-- there's a lot of other advantages of the last major advantages.
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-- This provides a comprehensive view of leadership that takes into
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-- account a wide variety of factors like problem solving skills,
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-- social judgment skills,
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-- So many of the skills fall under these three categories
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-- and it's easy to see where you need to improve.
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-- So what are some of the pitfalls the criticisms of skills based leadership?
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-- The first is the approach breath
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-- it definitely extends beyond the boundaries of leadership
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-- which makes it less precise and more general,
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-- Like if I say you need to improve your human skills?
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-- Well that's a broad category.
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-- What do you need to do
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-- specifically how do I exactly that
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-- give me a checklist?
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-- Abc how do I get there if this doesn't provide that?
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-- The second is the predictive value is limited,
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-- it doesn't explain how these skills translate into leadership performance.
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-- We know that leaders have these skills, but if you improve your leadership,
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-- let's say you've decided to approve your human skills,
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-- we don't know how that's going to affect your leadership.
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-- We can't say One plus one equals two.
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-- You improve your leadership,
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-- you're going to get new people that doesn't work that way.
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-- So sometimes you just gotta keep trying. Exactly.
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-- And the last criticism is the individual with trade
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-- like characteristics are included in this skill model.
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-- It's very similar to trade based except this is skills
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-- is not personality traits and things that you do,
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-- but they're so similar
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-- that sometimes they overlap.
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-- For example,
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-- human skills could actually be a trait you were
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-- born with and not something that you worked on,
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-- and that is skill based leadership.
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-- So do you find this one with what you do it with the work that you do?
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-- Do you apply this pretty well or is it something that's not
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-- It's one of the easier ones,
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-- The trade based one can be a little more difficult and later on as
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-- we get into the more advanced style leaderships you'll see that this this one skill
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-- based skills approach goes hand in hand with so many others that if you
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-- well you need to improve your human skills or
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-- In some cases this one is is a good building block to start with and before we
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-- Well listen, we are so glad that you've taken your time to listen to us.
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-- I want to encourage you with some scripture out of Philippians four
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-- Verse 12, Paul's kind of kind of
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-- he's having a rough time and this is what he says,
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-- I know what it is to be in need and I know what it is to have plenty.
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-- I have learned the secret of being content in
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-- any and every situation whether well fed or hungry,
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-- whether living in plenty or in one,
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-- I can do all things through him who gives me strength now?
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-- We quote 13 a lot because it's an easy fix.
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-- But he says, even when I'm hungry, even when things aren't going away, even when
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-- I can still find contentment when I am in
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-- the center of God's will and that's jesus christ.
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-- So we hope that you can thank you, we want to pray for you.
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-- We want to we want to help you develop as a leader.
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-- Please give us that opportunity. Thanks for listening.
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-- We don't take that for granted. Quick shout out to Jeff Bond.
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-- He's listening to every one of them.
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-- Thanks Chef, one of my buddies and every once in a while if you listen,
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-- we may do a shout out.
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-- There we go. Thanks for listening guys, we love you.
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-- This is an lbs production, which stands for pounds.
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-- I don't know if you knew that or not,
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-- but it also stands for laughing because we're saved, but we kind of like the pounds,
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-- so um Chris will lift them and I will gain them and we will have a great time.
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-- Mhm.
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