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This is Lead 12:12,
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a podcast on Christ centered leadership
based on Romans 12:12
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rejoice in hope, be patient tribulation,
the constant and prayer.
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Thanks for listening!
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Here's Dave and Chris.
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Hey, everybody.
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Boy, I'm
a terrible Dave replacement, aren't I?
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I can't hold a candle to that guy.
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Dave is not with us today.
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I have a stand in for him.
I have my lovely wife, Sharon.
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Sharon is going to be sitting in for Dave,
and I'd like to tell you a little bit
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about Sharon.
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Sharon is a professional baker.
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She's graduated with a culinary degree.
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She used to work in I.T.,
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and she is the mother of twin boys
that are now 24 years old.
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Everyone, please say hi to Sharon.
Hey, Sharon.
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Hi, Sharon,
tell us a little bit about you.
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I know you're married to a wonderful guy,
but what else besides that?
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I'm very blessed to be married to
to my best friend.
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Yes. The love of my life.
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Thank you.
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Yes, I have two amazing boys. Yes.
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They are actually young men.
They're not really boys.
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I have two dogs
that are the best dogs in the world.
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I agree,
and I'm truly blessed to have them.
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So I've got one question for you
before we get started with J.T..
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And that's just to get you going.
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Why won't you let your
husband buy you a new phone?
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Because
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my husband wants to buy me a new phone
every time something small happens,
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or if I have something
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that I can't figure out on my phone,
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he just thinks that a new phone
is going to fix it.
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So I don't think I need a new phone
every time that he thinks so.
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We'll follow that one up again later.
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Okay, let's get started with J.T.. OK.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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it is my privilege to introduce
someone that I think the world of.
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Sometimes we call each other
a brother from a different mother.
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He is a legend in powerlifting.
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He has so many world records.
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He is the number one drug
free bench presser in the world.
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Ladies and gentlemen, JT Hall JT.
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Thanks for joining us.
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I'm definitely honored to be here
talking to my story.
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I'm really looking forward to
and Chris saying that, you know,
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I could do an interview
by, Yeah, man, that's awesome.
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I've got a quick question for you.
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Do you even know how many world records
you have?
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Because when I look them up,
you have all of them how many records.
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I have, you know, World,
National, City, State, Regional,
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you know, I've been out here since 1994,
so I really don't know how many I have.
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You know, I've never really the goal
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to know how many I have,
which is really just just having fun
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and just getting more people
in involved in power lifting.
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That's wonderful. Amen.
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You know,
I remember the first time you and
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I worked out together,
you were training me
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and we would do a set
and say a Bible verse.
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And after a while I started thinking, Man,
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I need to start
learning more Bible verses.
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That's awesome.
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So JT, could
you tell me what your salvation story is?
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Yeah, so so it's when,
when you think about first person
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to talk about what was salvation
is, you know, salvation is being SAVED.
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You know, you walk away from in
you walk away from not serving the devil
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you walk towards serving Jesus Christ.
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So how did I get saved
it started way back in elementary school?
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Wow, amazing.
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Capital City Church in God is Christ
in Springbrook, Illinois.
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And that's how I got saved,
even though I mean
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going to church all my life
but actually got saved.
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It was like I was in Captial City Church
of God, in Christ, in the ministers.
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They called all the keys of the church.
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You know, it's like, you know,
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we all want to get
you saved one day for everyone to say yes.
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And then, you know,
we said a confession about being saved.
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And that's that's how I saved
so that's my salvation.
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How old were you then?
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I was in elementary school,
so maybe around eight or nine?
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Wow, that's great.
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I've been going to church all my life.
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It was never Hey.
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I mean, I mean, we had to go. It was.
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It was a lifestyle, but it was
never forced and never had to participate.
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A lot of different events in the church.
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Our parents wanted us to be on our own.
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He was a wonderful
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church, so it wasn't forced, but was
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it was fun to go to church
and still go to church.
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Now, you know, I'm usher
and I'm also part of the Security team.
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Wonderful.
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So you probably are the whole
security team, so they're
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blessed to have you on the security team.
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Yeah.
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So here's a question I'm going to ask you
that I've got a little background with,
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especially with you.
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What is your approach
to motivating someone
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to motivate someone?
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Some people might think
that might be a challenge.
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I don't think it really is a challenge
to motivate someone.
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I think you start by, you know,
by asking them, you know, exactly
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what do they need, whether it's training,
whether it is a school work
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or whether its finances is playing
just find out whats on their mind.
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Then once once you know that
you are all right, I'm going to trust you.
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And then we have more conversation,
you know, tell them,
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you know, and they're,
you know, you can do or don't give up.
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You just keep pushing.
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You just keep fighting with the parting
ways.
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You just find out what.
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Do they want to achieve
what do they want to do?
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And once you know that and then you move
into that positive direction
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with positive words,
positive reinforcement.
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I have seen you do that with Chris
whenever you were training him.
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That's beautiful. Oh, I remember one.
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Everything was twice
as heavy as it should be,
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and I was just having a bad day in the gym
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and I was walking around with my head down
and I think from my tail between my legs
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and you said , Hey,
you can't be Superman every day.
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And I thought,
Wow, that is really motivating.
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It's good to know
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we're going to have bad days,
but we're going to have good days.
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We just got to keep pushing forward
because if you
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if you give up,
you're won't achieve your goals.
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So you aiming for
like I say, Rome wasn't built in a day.
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You just got to just keep fighting.
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The way that you were pushing Chris
and cheering for him was just awesome.
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Whenever I was there
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watching you, training him out
and he would have me on the sled
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and I would be ready to fall over
and he'll be screaming.
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The beast is back and like,
Oh, I got, I'm motivated, I got to go!
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Definitely! Definitely.
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The training is so exhausting
and you just got keep pushing.
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The person wants to get
the best out of them.
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Amen.
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So I have another question
What is your goal
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when training someone and what steps
do you take to achieve that
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goal, when I training someone is to,
you know, what they want
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because everybody have different goals
like some people might want to be involved
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in competing someone just
basically might want to just get stronger.
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Someone might just want to improve
their health.
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Their clients, you know, they are elderly,
you know, in their seventies.
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So it's a lot more
of a functional training. So.
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So we carry over in their life.
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So once I know what they
they want something
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I said they're training
for that specific type of activity.
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Like, for example, Chris,
he wanted to compete in the bench press.
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What are we going to compete and bench
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well then the train is going to be very,
very demanding and very hard.
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And it was
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to a point
where sometimes you might faint.
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Every day. You might vomit.
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But it's very, very over on the platform,
so you are prepared.
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So that's that's how I do it.
That's great.
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That's wonderful.
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So here's a question
how important is prayer in your training
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so when, when you think about prayer
and prayer
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is, I look at a direct
link to talking to the Father.
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So in training,
you have the physical training,
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which is the weightlifting,
and you have the nutrition
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which help feed your body
and then you have this spiritual training.
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So by praying you can,
you can talk to the Father
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and you can ask, what things
because the Bible is very clear.
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Yes, if you ask in My name,
you shall have it.
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And so when I train, you know,
I want it to be a top drug free lifter.
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So I'll every day always pray to God,
you know, give me strength
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so I can be a top drug free lifter
so I don't have to use steroids.
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Again, . I don't.
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I don't judge
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nobody if they want to use their voice,
and it is all about free will.
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But I didn't want to go there. Yes.
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So I knew I had to get a more strength.
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In Phillipians 4:13 it says I can do
all things in Christ who stregnthens you.
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When you think you have more strength,
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and that's a spiritual strength to help
take my train to the next level
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because in powerlifting, you know, so
back, you know, people who use steroids.
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But yeah, I don't judge them.
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Yes, I want to be drug free,
so I look for other ways to get stronger.
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So when you take a spiritual training,
like in your physical training,
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you take in your nutritional training,
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all three of those together
help take it to the next level.
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Amen. So JT, how do you handle conflict?
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You know,
conflict is always going to be around.
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There's always going to be conflict.
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Yes, I mean, I've got kids.
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Amen! Its
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dealing with
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different issues that you get
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a lot of family members,
you know, you got to deal with that. Yes.
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I mean, at work, how I deal with
it is just is by being patient
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and by praying
and just by taking one day at a time.
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And just don't let it overwhelm me that
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I get so stress out that I can't focus.
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So that's that's how I deal with it
just by praying.
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And that reduces the stress.
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And by praying the Father can give you
different ways how to handle this problem
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because if I act on impulse the first time
something happens.
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You know, you might do something stupid.
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Maybe you might regret it later.
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And just by praying, just by thinking,
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the correct answers, will come to you
in how to deal with their conflicts.
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You know, like I said,
we are always going to deal with conflict.
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The Bible is clear.
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You know, we have an enemy
that walks around this world
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looking for people who to destroy
and make chaos in your life.
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There is always going to e problems.
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Absolutely.
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By talking, talking to the Father
it will help give the answers,
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you know, reduce stress,
and how to handle those problems.
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Very good. That is so true.
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So I've got one of my favorite stories
that I want you to tell.
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Tell us about the time
you were in a competition
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and you had a bench shirt rip.
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Oh, let me think.
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That's got to be one of the scariest
things that can happen to a power lifter!
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Yes. So this probably happened
maybe about 15 years ago.
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It was at a NASA state meet.
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And in powerlifting,
you have different time
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with bench shirts that you can
you can bench press with.
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You can use a poly shirt.
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Or you can use a canvas shirt,
or you can use denim.
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So I started out using the poly shirt
and I wanted to switch to a denim shirt.
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This is about 15 years ago.
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I think it was maybe 540lbs or 550lbs on
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the bench and also the bench would have
what is called
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the bench press safety rack.
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So if something is going to happen,
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the bar will drop basically
right above your chest,
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so the bar won't slam on your head
or your chest.
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So I was lowering the weight down,
and next thing you know,
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the denim split right down my chest!
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Oh, no!
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It sounded like someone
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had shot you
or someone had shot, it scared me.
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And that's two spotters on the end
and they grab the weight.
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But also they have the bench press
safety racks, so when the bars slam down
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the bench press safety racks
grabbed the weight,
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so it wouldn't drop down on my chest
and hurt me. Wow.
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It is scary because oh yeah, loud
and the shirt is really tight.
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So you try to lower and
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to pull it down.
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And the shirt just split! Well,
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that had to be scary.
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Yeah, it is.
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Because, you know,
you got the 540lbs, 550lbs weight
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to try to bring it down
and the shirt just splits.
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So it split the weight just easily drop.
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Oh yeah.
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So they got the bench press safety racks.
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But it still really scary you.
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It's a very loud noise and you just don't
have control of the weight
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But its an experience I'll never forget.
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After that,
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I switched to a poly shirt
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from now I've never had a poly split so
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I could just imagine a bang.
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And then 550lbs going
flying down at me was out of control.
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You know, if I'm not mistaken,
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I think you talked me out of using denim
to for that reason.
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Yeah, they can split.
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They just don't give like the poly shirts,
the poly shirts will stretch,
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they'll give, so those denim.
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just don't give, they just split.
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So I after that,
I never use a denim shirt.
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That did you in?
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Do what now?
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That did you in.
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You would finish with those.
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Yes, some people use them.
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They used more of a double and triple ply
denims it is a lot more thicker material.
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And it there's a split
and it can handle the stress.
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But then you gotta use so much more weight
to get the weight to touch.
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And I just don't want to go that way, so
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stick to the poly shirts.
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So what is the most important nuts and
bolts life lessons that you could give us?
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I think this idea of not
not just you all, but just to anybody.
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I have a favorite saying, I've been saying
this may be well over 20 years.
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This is one of my favorite
saying something probably heard of it.
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My favorite
saying this is not how you start.
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It's how you finish.
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Yes, because you know, in life,
a lot of people can start things,
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you know, well, you can start work
or you just start a career
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or you can start going to college
or you just start doing some tests.
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That's very easy.
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Is very easy to start something.
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So can you a
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bachelor's degree master's or a doctorate,
it's very easy to start trying.
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Can you use finish?
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That's the end game. Absolutely.
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So can you finish getting this doctorate?
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Can you establish a career
and finish this career and retire?
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So, so that's my favorite saying.
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It's not how you start. It's
how you finish.
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I say Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Yeah, it's going to take time.
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So you got to be patient
and you just got to finish that race.
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So that's that's my favorite saying is,
you know, is this not how you start.
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It's how you finish. Absolutely.
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It is, because sometimes it's difficult
or it gets stressful.
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It is easy just just to quit.
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No, no, you don't quit.
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You finish what you started
something that we teach our daughter,
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you know, you started this.
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So you should finish. Absolutely.
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Just recently quit being
you going to be a quitter later
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on in life when you started as a career,
we give you our Oh, I quit.
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I just quit my job. No! Start something.
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Finish it.
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Hey, man, that's wonderful.
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J.T., I know you're a busy man
and you have a lot of commitments
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and we appreciate you taking.
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But I've got one last question for you.
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I got time
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to hear it.
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What is your biggest praise for God?
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So my biggest praise is
what happened on September the 27th.
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I mean, we all got a lot of praise,
but this one just stay with me for a life
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on September 27th, couple more days
before that, I had tested positive
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for a COVID Yes. Yeah.
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And it just it just got worse.
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It got worse and it got worse.
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So September 27th,
my wife called the ambulance
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and I had to go to the hospital.
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So I made it into the IC unit.
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So even before I got into the ICU unit,
my confession
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was that I'm going to live
I'm not going to die.
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I want to get out of this hospital.
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By Jesus Christ, I am healed.
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It might take me a couple of days.
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It might take me a week or two, but
I'm walking out this smelling like roses.
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I am going to be fine.
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So is this all about what you say
is what you will have.
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And this was my confession
every single day.
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I'm going to live.
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I'm not going to die.
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By Jesus Christ, I am healed.
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So that's my praise. That's my confession.
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Whatever you say, you shall have.
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Again, having COVID
and being very sick is scary! Yes.
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I mean, we're human so we have emotions.
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But every day I was praying.
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I was talking to the Lord like,
you know, I'm going to get out of this.
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And everything worked out great.
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I mean, the doctors say, you know,
this is a miracle this a lot of people
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now have severe pneumonia in their lungs,
end up on a ventilator. Yes.
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But he said,
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because I was such in great shape,
I exercised my my lungs was so, so strong.
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I didn't have to get on a plus
with the medications they really help.
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But also the X Factor
was just my confessions.
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Yes, ipraying and talking
o different ministers on the phone.
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Yes, I have hundreds of people
praying for me. Yes, you do.
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And I think that was an X Factor
that helped get me healed.
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When you were such an inspiration,
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I can remember getting on Facebook
and seeing you in the hospital
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and working out
while you were in the hospital.
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I was like, Oh my goodness, wow.
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He is amazing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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because I was starting to feel good
and I miss exercise.
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So, so so I got up and I started doing
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presses of the bed and doing squats.
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And, you know, it's like, you know,
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I got to get up and keep moving
because of a body in motion
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will stay in motion,
which is just laying in bed.
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You lose strength, you lose condition.
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You lose, stamina.
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So I just had to get up,
but I had a rude awakening.
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Once I came home,
I truly knew how bad shape I was
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in,you know, you know how I say
because I remember I gave up, I struggled.
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I couldn't walk up the stairs.
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Oh my, oh my gosh.
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Yeah, I can
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barely do ten pushups.
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So it was it actually.
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It took some time.
I knew it was easy just to quit.
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But like I say, that's my favorite saying,
its' not how you start.
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It is how you finished.
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Absolutely zero stamina.
My condition was terrible.
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My strength was terrible.
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I was like, Hey,
I'm going to finish this I'm
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going to fight every single day,
every day I did pushups.
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It's not how you start, it's
how you finish.
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Absolutely. J. T.,
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thank you so much.
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You're an inspiration.
You are truly a wonderful role model.
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I love you, brother. I can't
thank you enough for this.
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Thank you, joy.
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And hopefully we can do it again
in the near future.
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Like I say, I give praise to to God. Amen.
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All right, thanks. Thanks a lot.
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God bless.
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Bless.
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This is an LBS production
which stands for pounds.
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I don't know if you knew that or not,
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but it also stands for laughing
because we're saved.
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But we kind of like the pounds,
so Chris will lift them
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and I will gain them
and we will have a great time.
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Thanks for listening.
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