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1 00:00:33,072 --> 00:00:34,002 Zoom: Hey everybody. 2 00:00:34,002 --> 00:00:36,172 Welcome back to Lead 12:12. 3 00:00:36,192 --> 00:00:38,022 We're excited that you're hanging out with us. 4 00:00:38,022 --> 00:00:39,702 We have a great speaker today. 5 00:00:39,702 --> 00:00:41,592 We're so excited about Chris. 6 00:00:41,592 --> 00:00:43,092 Tell us about our speaker today. 7 00:00:43,122 --> 00:00:46,932 Chris: We are here with a true legend, the star of my favorite TV show Sanford. 8 00:00:46,932 --> 00:00:47,442 and son. 9 00:00:47,492 --> 00:00:49,052 It's my honor to introduce. 10 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:50,012 Demond Wilson! 11 00:00:50,012 --> 00:00:52,022 Thank you so much for joining us today. 12 00:00:52,422 --> 00:00:53,476 Dave: It's my pleasure in that. 13 00:00:53,686 --> 00:00:56,956 I say hi to, to all of your listeners and the woman that 14 00:00:56,956 --> 00:00:58,816 you said was your wife to just. 15 00:00:59,116 --> 00:01:00,676 Chris: We weren't supposed to talk about that. 16 00:01:00,886 --> 00:01:01,186 Zoom: Yeah. 17 00:01:02,186 --> 00:01:02,516 Dave: Yeah, 18 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:05,686 Chris: so Demond, I would love to hear your salvation story. 19 00:01:05,686 --> 00:01:06,886 Can you share that with us? 20 00:01:07,886 --> 00:01:10,098 Dave: I'm so far beyond that, I grew up. 21 00:01:11,358 --> 00:01:11,778 Totally. 22 00:01:11,778 --> 00:01:13,248 Ensconced in Catholicism. 23 00:01:13,788 --> 00:01:17,789 I was an acolyte and my whole life is from the age of eight 24 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:19,649 was centered around the church. 25 00:01:19,729 --> 00:01:22,429 But I brought my mom. 26 00:01:22,729 --> 00:01:23,629 And my dad. 27 00:01:24,889 --> 00:01:25,729 Out of. 28 00:01:26,729 --> 00:01:32,039 The dark side into the light, through the Catholic church now. 29 00:01:32,729 --> 00:01:33,659 One might say. 30 00:01:34,199 --> 00:01:39,114 But you went from the dark side to a lighter, dark side which is true, but it, 31 00:01:39,114 --> 00:01:44,265 there are many roads that lead to to the most high and what the Lord saw in me. 32 00:01:44,715 --> 00:01:47,595 That I was born with was a talent. 33 00:01:47,895 --> 00:01:49,605 For entertaining. 34 00:01:50,325 --> 00:01:52,545 As a dancer and a singer and all of that. 35 00:01:53,385 --> 00:01:53,865 And. 36 00:01:54,585 --> 00:01:56,295 The love in my heart for him 37 00:01:56,395 --> 00:01:58,375 so the Lord's call was on my life. 38 00:01:58,466 --> 00:02:00,476 My kids were in private parochial school. 39 00:02:00,476 --> 00:02:01,436 We were living in. 40 00:02:01,586 --> 00:02:02,306 In Bel air. 41 00:02:02,726 --> 00:02:05,557 Beverly Hills and I have six adult progeny. 42 00:02:05,624 --> 00:02:06,464 I took the Lord. 43 00:02:06,614 --> 00:02:09,254 A little as a, literally when he said go forth. 44 00:02:09,824 --> 00:02:11,264 Be fruitful and multiply. 45 00:02:11,294 --> 00:02:11,474 Chris: did 46 00:02:11,534 --> 00:02:11,684 Zoom: that. 47 00:02:11,774 --> 00:02:12,194 Yeah, you 48 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:15,236 Dave: We think so I have four adult. 49 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:17,136 Daughters. 50 00:02:17,586 --> 00:02:20,046 And two adult. 51 00:02:20,076 --> 00:02:22,876 My oldest is 48, Nicole. 52 00:02:22,886 --> 00:02:27,356 My, my second born Melissa, and they both live in Atlanta with my granddaughter. 53 00:02:27,836 --> 00:02:30,026 My second, Melissa is 40. 54 00:02:30,176 --> 00:02:31,226 Is 44. 55 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:34,976 My oldest son, Christopher who hits a golf ball, 320 yards. 56 00:02:35,006 --> 00:02:36,056 He's a beast. 57 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:36,596 His kid. 58 00:02:37,196 --> 00:02:41,036 I put it off club in his hand when he was eight years old. 59 00:02:41,636 --> 00:02:44,846 He is a monster and his brother Demonn Jr. 60 00:02:45,086 --> 00:02:47,396 Will never want it to be known as the Mon Jr. 61 00:02:47,726 --> 00:02:51,176 Until he started working in a corporate world and people say, Hey. 62 00:02:51,626 --> 00:02:52,826 Do you know who your dad is? 63 00:02:53,036 --> 00:02:53,246 No. 64 00:02:53,313 --> 00:02:55,069 Do you know what whose name you have? 65 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:56,329 And he said, yeah, 66 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,679 That's my dad and they said, wow, we're going to do business with you. 67 00:03:00,679 --> 00:03:02,459 So now he's Goodman Jr. 68 00:03:02,485 --> 00:03:05,437 The rescue and he's 41. 69 00:03:05,475 --> 00:03:08,068 Tabitha is 36. 70 00:03:08,458 --> 00:03:11,788 And my baby who's been married five years and has her doctorate. 71 00:03:11,788 --> 00:03:12,508 She is. 72 00:03:13,198 --> 00:03:13,798 32. 73 00:03:13,798 --> 00:03:16,828 She's the one that I came off the road for and I. 74 00:03:17,248 --> 00:03:18,808 My personal touch was on her. 75 00:03:19,078 --> 00:03:19,858 She's a beast. 76 00:03:19,888 --> 00:03:20,878 Chris: That's amazing. 77 00:03:21,238 --> 00:03:25,228 Dave: Yeah, she, Sarah is 32 and she's married to a guy named Matt. 78 00:03:25,678 --> 00:03:26,897 Matthew Mahoney. 79 00:03:27,347 --> 00:03:28,007 Nice kid. 80 00:03:28,037 --> 00:03:31,277 Nice kid, but my baby girl, I still, I'm still, when he 81 00:03:31,277 --> 00:03:32,597 comes to my house, I do this. 82 00:03:33,077 --> 00:03:33,707 Chris: I got ya. 83 00:03:33,857 --> 00:03:34,157 Yeah. 84 00:03:34,187 --> 00:03:35,177 Keep your eyes on him. 85 00:03:35,897 --> 00:03:37,247 Dave: We've been married five years. 86 00:03:37,637 --> 00:03:39,107 So what happened to your base in your voice? 87 00:03:39,137 --> 00:03:39,587 It went up. 88 00:03:40,007 --> 00:03:40,577 We've been married. 89 00:03:41,237 --> 00:03:41,582 Mr. 90 00:03:41,582 --> 00:03:41,927 Wilson. 91 00:03:41,927 --> 00:03:42,557 I said, yeah. 92 00:03:42,707 --> 00:03:43,457 But I still. 93 00:03:44,537 --> 00:03:45,107 We've got you. 94 00:03:45,317 --> 00:03:46,007 And my scopes. 95 00:03:46,127 --> 00:03:46,367 Then 96 00:03:46,697 --> 00:03:47,447 Zoom: Yeah, boy. 97 00:03:47,507 --> 00:03:49,787 Dave: also back to what your original question was. 98 00:03:49,877 --> 00:03:50,957 I've always known. 99 00:03:51,047 --> 00:03:54,857 I came into the Catholic church to Christen my second 100 00:03:54,857 --> 00:03:57,137 born Melissa and my parents. 101 00:03:57,137 --> 00:03:58,037 I had sent to them. 102 00:03:58,165 --> 00:04:00,025 We had a rather large place. 103 00:04:00,205 --> 00:04:03,811 In Bel air and I came down the aisle of the church holding. 104 00:04:04,471 --> 00:04:09,481 My second born and my wife, my mother notch nudged my father. 105 00:04:10,021 --> 00:04:12,481 And she said my dad's name was Grady Wilson. 106 00:04:12,511 --> 00:04:13,411 That's where the character 107 00:04:13,441 --> 00:04:13,981 came from. 108 00:04:14,101 --> 00:04:15,001 Chris: that's amazing. 109 00:04:15,781 --> 00:04:17,492 Dave: And no, that's what his parents named him. 110 00:04:17,492 --> 00:04:18,542 So that's what he. 111 00:04:19,082 --> 00:04:19,952 What do you answered too? 112 00:04:20,972 --> 00:04:23,422 And my mom said But that's his nickname. 113 00:04:23,812 --> 00:04:25,012 The mine's going to preach. 114 00:04:25,162 --> 00:04:26,302 It's all over him. 115 00:04:27,302 --> 00:04:31,457 And I turned down a lot of money after my third series. 116 00:04:32,567 --> 00:04:35,357 I was going to Florida to do my first. 117 00:04:35,687 --> 00:04:36,197 Revival. 118 00:04:36,197 --> 00:04:40,759 I had been studying, and I said to the Lord, Until I'm imbued with the 119 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:42,660 with the paraklete, with the pneuma. 120 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,870 The spirit of the living. 121 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,010 Creator. 122 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:48,810 I'm never going to eat again. 123 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,700 And I'm up. 124 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,070 And my tower in Belair up. 125 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:55,200 And in my bedroom and. 126 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:59,550 I took off all of my clothes and I just sat on the floor. 127 00:05:00,630 --> 00:05:02,550 And I'm about a day later. 128 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:06,390 A voice spoke to my heart and said, are you ready to receive. 129 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:07,320 Chris: Wow. 130 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:10,410 Dave: And I got up and I was trembling and I went into the bathroom. 131 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:12,360 Now my bathroom window was closed. 132 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,780 My bathroom looked out over a tennis court, but it was a small window. 133 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,770 It was closed. 134 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:19,080 And I went down on my face. 135 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,970 The way I came in the world. 136 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:22,920 And I felt this warm. 137 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:25,080 Breeze coming over me. 138 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:27,900 And I jumped to my feet and. 139 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:30,600 I put my clothes on and I ran downstairs. 140 00:05:30,667 --> 00:05:31,670 My, my family. 141 00:05:31,970 --> 00:05:34,910 We're sitting at the breakfast table downstairs, having dinner. 142 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:37,790 And I wanted to say to them, Honey. 143 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:42,200 I just received the holy spirit and all of this strange language 144 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:43,610 started coming out of my mouth. 145 00:05:43,850 --> 00:05:44,840 I couldn't start with. 146 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,890 I felt like I was regurgitating and my wife and my kids 147 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:51,590 looked at me like, oh my Lord. 148 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,700 He's gone. 149 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:53,480 Chris: No. 150 00:05:54,410 --> 00:05:56,000 Dave: And you know what they were right. 151 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:01,048 My wife would leave the house to drive the kids to school and she would come home. 152 00:06:01,408 --> 00:06:05,818 And I would be in, in the formal dining room, bathed in sweat. 153 00:06:06,418 --> 00:06:07,078 Preaching. 154 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:08,338 Just preaching. 155 00:06:08,338 --> 00:06:09,178 There was no one there. 156 00:06:10,138 --> 00:06:12,628 And she thought I had lost my mind. 157 00:06:13,228 --> 00:06:14,068 It was all over me. 158 00:06:14,068 --> 00:06:15,568 It wasn't something I could contain. 159 00:06:15,568 --> 00:06:17,938 So I knew when people said, why did you leave? 160 00:06:17,938 --> 00:06:19,528 Showbiz is when you went to the top. 161 00:06:19,708 --> 00:06:20,578 I never would do that. 162 00:06:20,578 --> 00:06:23,158 I said that's because I know what you don't know. 163 00:06:23,428 --> 00:06:25,288 I know the demonic force. 164 00:06:25,978 --> 00:06:28,978 That's all over the world, but specifically it's in areas 165 00:06:28,978 --> 00:06:30,988 like Hollywood Hollyweird. 166 00:06:31,618 --> 00:06:32,428 Hollywood. 167 00:06:33,388 --> 00:06:35,188 Is the, would that would just conjure on. 168 00:06:35,998 --> 00:06:36,598 Chris: Okay. 169 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:38,608 Dave: big sign that you see Hollywood. 170 00:06:38,668 --> 00:06:41,738 If you look up Hollywood, that's the, would that, which is conjured. 171 00:06:41,752 --> 00:06:43,612 And I saw all of that. 172 00:06:43,912 --> 00:06:47,062 You don't get to the top in the industry unless you have help. 173 00:06:47,872 --> 00:06:48,232 Chris: True. 174 00:06:48,388 --> 00:06:49,708 Dave: When I came from Vietnam. 175 00:06:50,638 --> 00:06:54,328 And when I got out of the military in 1968, 176 00:06:55,678 --> 00:06:58,528 I had to reestablish myself in the theater. 177 00:06:58,558 --> 00:06:59,848 I had grown up in the theater. 178 00:06:59,848 --> 00:07:04,104 I started on Broadway as a kid and two years went by, I was drafted and. 179 00:07:04,644 --> 00:07:06,984 I was reestablishing myself and I was doing. 180 00:07:07,984 --> 00:07:09,184 Gut bucket theater. 181 00:07:09,184 --> 00:07:09,724 I was doing. 182 00:07:09,768 --> 00:07:13,308 Off-Broadway and then I started doing off-Broadway. 183 00:07:13,908 --> 00:07:17,424 And in those days, people like Al Pachino and the late Raul, Julia, 184 00:07:17,424 --> 00:07:20,574 who's a buddy of mine and we all did a film together in San Francisco. 185 00:07:20,584 --> 00:07:23,614 You don't get to the top in the industry and motion pictures 186 00:07:23,614 --> 00:07:24,904 and the recording industry. 187 00:07:25,114 --> 00:07:28,144 You do not get to the top simply because you're talented 188 00:07:28,384 --> 00:07:30,094 dis take that outta your mind. 189 00:07:30,334 --> 00:07:31,414 It doesn't work that way. 190 00:07:32,074 --> 00:07:37,624 So when I saw the underside, the underbelly of what I was involved in, 191 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:42,394 and I was at the top of my game, I did Sanford on NBC baby on back on CBS. 192 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,934 The new odd couple on ABC and universal studios. 193 00:07:46,294 --> 00:07:48,094 Had called me up and they were praising me. 194 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:49,128 Demond come on over. 195 00:07:49,158 --> 00:07:50,658 I said, I don't come to studios. 196 00:07:50,928 --> 00:07:52,098 Doing a regular hours. 197 00:07:52,098 --> 00:07:54,078 This should come tell us when you want to get here. 198 00:07:54,528 --> 00:07:58,396 I'll be there 4:30, 5:00, maybe 5: 30. 199 00:07:58,396 --> 00:07:59,067 We'll be here. 200 00:07:59,307 --> 00:08:02,607 I got there, there was the director, the producer, and they 201 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:03,697 were ready to start ahead of. 202 00:08:03,726 --> 00:08:07,356 Sit-com they praised me for five minutes and they said, this is a story 203 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:11,556 about a black doctor who was tired of the city, moved to the country. 204 00:08:12,276 --> 00:08:13,716 And the people didn't trust him. 205 00:08:13,716 --> 00:08:16,746 And so the kids started bringing their animals to him and he. 206 00:08:18,156 --> 00:08:19,896 He caught on in the community like that. 207 00:08:19,896 --> 00:08:20,976 They said, it's perfect for you. 208 00:08:21,006 --> 00:08:21,456 Demand. 209 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,390 You're a good guy. 210 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:25,130 And they made the mistake of saying. 211 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:27,020 What have you been doing lately? 212 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:28,880 Now what they didn't notice. 213 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:34,010 I'm standing there with in those days, surgery over Linday jeans, and so I had a 214 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:36,020 little bomber leather bomber jacket on me. 215 00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:39,050 Didn't see my quarter pounder with cheese under my arm. 216 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,270 That's what I call my Bible. 217 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:41,900 In those days. 218 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Chris: Oh, okay. 219 00:08:43,130 --> 00:08:45,110 Dave: Hebrew Bible quarter pounder with cheese. 220 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,010 I didn't see that. 221 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,880 But they made the fatal error of saying, what have you been doing lately? 222 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:54,170 And there was a year between the new odd couple in these guys. 223 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:57,980 I just stood there in the middle of the floor to the producer, the 224 00:08:57,980 --> 00:09:01,340 executive at universal studios, the director, and two writers. 225 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,443 And preach the gospel unwanted down. 226 00:09:04,493 --> 00:09:06,863 No, just straight up, no ice. 227 00:09:06,945 --> 00:09:07,875 20 minutes. 228 00:09:08,955 --> 00:09:11,445 And they shook my hand and they weren't, they didn't say anything. 229 00:09:11,445 --> 00:09:12,885 They were like, what the heck? 230 00:09:13,425 --> 00:09:14,205 I get home. 231 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:16,065 And my wife said I had a, I had a. 232 00:09:17,235 --> 00:09:18,795 I had an English Jewish. 233 00:09:19,545 --> 00:09:24,315 Manager Bobby Littmann and my wife said, honey, you need to call your manager. 234 00:09:24,315 --> 00:09:24,855 And I called him. 235 00:09:24,885 --> 00:09:26,265 He said, oh, darling. 236 00:09:26,325 --> 00:09:27,495 What have you done? 237 00:09:27,547 --> 00:09:28,134 I said, what do you mean. 238 00:09:28,884 --> 00:09:31,584 These people were going to pay you 150,000. 239 00:09:32,394 --> 00:09:32,694 Chris: Oh, my 240 00:09:32,874 --> 00:09:35,064 Dave: They said the mind doesn't want to act. 241 00:09:35,094 --> 00:09:36,384 It wants to preach. 242 00:09:36,444 --> 00:09:37,074 And the lights. 243 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:39,444 There it is. 244 00:09:40,404 --> 00:09:42,924 And I had no idea how that was going to happen. 245 00:09:42,924 --> 00:09:47,574 I'm living in Bel air behind gates magic Johnson was down the hill. 246 00:09:47,574 --> 00:09:49,914 Jerry West was up the other end of the street. 247 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:53,814 I had no, the only thing I knew was the Catholic church in Reverend 248 00:09:53,814 --> 00:09:56,484 I, so I knew that you could see the dilemma that was a joke. 249 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:57,024 Hello. 250 00:09:57,504 --> 00:09:58,104 Is this on. 251 00:09:58,168 --> 00:09:58,438 Zoom: Huh. 252 00:09:59,578 --> 00:10:00,748 Dave: So you could see this dilemma. 253 00:10:00,778 --> 00:10:01,395 I I'm studying. 254 00:10:01,575 --> 00:10:03,345 The Lord is saying I'm going to open your ministry. 255 00:10:03,345 --> 00:10:04,965 I had no idea how it was going to happen. 256 00:10:05,385 --> 00:10:08,145 I'm sitting in the breakfast room, my gardener rolled 257 00:10:08,145 --> 00:10:10,065 down or Ramos it's to tired. 258 00:10:11,475 --> 00:10:12,495 Kicked over the line one. 259 00:10:12,495 --> 00:10:15,285 I said, you see this just like the adversary I'm trying to 260 00:10:15,285 --> 00:10:17,835 study and he's disrupting me. 261 00:10:17,865 --> 00:10:20,145 And then the spirit said, go witness to him. 262 00:10:20,985 --> 00:10:22,275 I didn't speak Spanish. 263 00:10:22,842 --> 00:10:23,562 I don't know. 264 00:10:23,892 --> 00:10:24,852 How I'm going to. 265 00:10:25,002 --> 00:10:25,602 Chris: my goodness. 266 00:10:25,962 --> 00:10:29,128 Dave: Conversed with this guy, so I go out there and I start talking. 267 00:10:29,368 --> 00:10:30,658 It's come on, guys, calm down. 268 00:10:30,688 --> 00:10:32,368 This is new play and this is serious. 269 00:10:32,406 --> 00:10:33,276 They go outside. 270 00:10:33,666 --> 00:10:35,916 And I started talking to this guy and I started. 271 00:10:36,606 --> 00:10:39,276 The Lord gave me word of knowledge into his life. 272 00:10:39,456 --> 00:10:41,599 I didn't know him for anything other than my gardener. 273 00:10:41,628 --> 00:10:41,808 Chris: Huh. 274 00:10:42,048 --> 00:10:43,668 Dave: And I said, roll down your married. 275 00:10:43,878 --> 00:10:44,148 Yes. 276 00:10:44,148 --> 00:10:45,888 He said, see, I said, where's your way. 277 00:10:45,888 --> 00:10:46,038 He's. 278 00:10:46,428 --> 00:10:46,818 He called. 279 00:10:46,848 --> 00:10:48,528 I said, are you faithful to your wife? 280 00:10:48,588 --> 00:10:49,278 You're not arguing. 281 00:10:49,548 --> 00:10:49,908 You said. 282 00:10:50,908 --> 00:10:51,598 Chris: Wow. 283 00:10:51,898 --> 00:10:54,148 Dave: And I said, how would you feel if she was doing 284 00:10:54,148 --> 00:10:55,798 that anyway, long story short. 285 00:10:56,578 --> 00:10:58,618 I asked him what he knew about the most high. 286 00:10:58,918 --> 00:10:59,338 He said. 287 00:10:59,638 --> 00:11:00,628 He wasn't in the church. 288 00:11:00,658 --> 00:11:01,478 I said, I want you to. 289 00:11:01,508 --> 00:11:02,468 Say the sinner's prayer. 290 00:11:02,468 --> 00:11:03,398 Will you do that for me? 291 00:11:03,428 --> 00:11:06,308 And the Lord will come into your life and bless you in your family. 292 00:11:06,998 --> 00:11:11,014 And he did And we knelt down in front of my in front of my tennis court or 293 00:11:11,014 --> 00:11:14,674 was it in front of the house And we note down and I let him in As soon as 294 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:18,514 Brian I said roll down I'm going to find you a Hispanic speaking church 295 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:25,084 I ran to the phone The only number I knew was seven One for 2000, which 296 00:11:25,084 --> 00:11:26,824 was Trinity broadcasting network. 297 00:11:27,784 --> 00:11:29,942 I stayed on the phone and it it was bam. 298 00:11:30,002 --> 00:11:32,312 I hung up and I tried to walk away the holy spirit to say, 299 00:11:32,342 --> 00:11:33,392 stay right there in a band. 300 00:11:33,456 --> 00:11:33,649 Bam. 301 00:11:34,219 --> 00:11:36,139 After a half an hour, I got you. 302 00:11:36,139 --> 00:11:38,599 A lady came on the phone and she said, Trinity, broadcasting 303 00:11:38,599 --> 00:11:39,739 network, praise the Lord. 304 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:41,029 Who am I speaking with? 305 00:11:41,629 --> 00:11:44,159 I said, I just led my gardener to the Lord. 306 00:11:44,219 --> 00:11:45,629 No, she said, what can I help you with? 307 00:11:45,629 --> 00:11:47,579 I said, I just led my garden into the Lord. 308 00:11:47,969 --> 00:11:50,471 Can you Find me a Hispanic speaking church. 309 00:11:50,801 --> 00:11:52,751 I said, I know there's one in Culver city. 310 00:11:52,841 --> 00:11:53,421 And she said, 311 00:11:53,451 --> 00:11:55,341 Like women do, women are going to be a mother. 312 00:11:55,341 --> 00:11:57,651 I don't matter how old you are, how young you are. 313 00:11:57,711 --> 00:11:58,191 They going to be? 314 00:11:58,641 --> 00:11:59,091 Chris: Sure. 315 00:11:59,811 --> 00:12:02,241 Dave: And she said, your voice sounds awfully familiar. 316 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:03,541 Who am I speaking with? 317 00:12:03,571 --> 00:12:04,654 I said Demond Wilson. 318 00:12:04,654 --> 00:12:06,177 She said, oh my gosh. 319 00:12:07,197 --> 00:12:08,277 You're not going to believe this. 320 00:12:08,277 --> 00:12:09,147 I said, okay. 321 00:12:09,327 --> 00:12:09,897 She said, 322 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:16,357 Four years ago, we were, we came to California and we were turned 323 00:12:16,357 --> 00:12:18,637 around up in Laurel canyon. 324 00:12:19,207 --> 00:12:22,717 And we didn't know how to get out of the canyon and nobody would stop. 325 00:12:22,747 --> 00:12:23,887 She said, did you drive. 326 00:12:24,397 --> 00:12:25,297 A silver and black. 327 00:12:25,687 --> 00:12:28,267 A rolls Royce would be Mon on the plates. 328 00:12:29,107 --> 00:12:30,500 And I said you're not the police. 329 00:12:30,890 --> 00:12:32,840 She said, no, I said. 330 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:33,770 I did. 331 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:35,210 She said you stopped. 332 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:37,250 And you asked us. 333 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:38,810 If you could help us. 334 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:43,021 And we told you and you didn't tell us, you took us down to sunset Boulevard. 335 00:12:43,291 --> 00:12:45,691 I never forgot that she said, what are you doing now? 336 00:12:45,721 --> 00:12:46,921 I said, I'm waiting on the Lord. 337 00:12:46,921 --> 00:12:49,201 He promised me some things and I'm waiting on him. 338 00:12:49,261 --> 00:12:50,011 Chris: Wow. 339 00:12:50,041 --> 00:12:51,031 Dave: And she said, hold on. 340 00:12:51,031 --> 00:12:55,111 She went to the phone and got Paul and Jan crouch and they got on, I did one 341 00:12:55,111 --> 00:12:57,631 show and my ministry just blew up world. 342 00:12:58,711 --> 00:12:59,491 Chris: Amazing. 343 00:12:59,789 --> 00:13:01,229 Dave: We serve an amazing God. 344 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,519 Chris: Amen. 345 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:03,479 Yes, we do. 346 00:13:04,019 --> 00:13:04,889 A hundred percent. 347 00:13:04,889 --> 00:13:05,309 We do 348 00:13:05,549 --> 00:13:05,939 Zoom: tell me 349 00:13:06,149 --> 00:13:06,599 Dave: that's. 350 00:13:07,169 --> 00:13:07,439 Huh. 351 00:13:07,619 --> 00:13:07,919 Chris: Tell me 352 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,219 Zoom: about your ministry and leadership and the things that you've had to. 353 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:14,246 grow through as you applied leadership in 354 00:13:14,306 --> 00:13:14,829 Chris: ministry. 355 00:13:14,829 --> 00:13:16,722 Dave: What happened was because of. 356 00:13:17,532 --> 00:13:18,792 Being an entity. 357 00:13:19,512 --> 00:13:21,582 I got invitations. 358 00:13:21,642 --> 00:13:23,842 I'm telling you guys, you got to read this book. 359 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,520 I got invitations from the top, from the leaders of all denominations. 360 00:13:30,090 --> 00:13:31,170 From the church of God. 361 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:32,610 The big boys. 362 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,890 From the Pentecostal assemblies, the big boys, the Baptist circle, the big boys. 363 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:39,300 The paw. 364 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:41,538 You don't base your theology on a lesser doctrine. 365 00:13:42,078 --> 00:13:43,308 People said, oh, you're baptized. 366 00:13:43,368 --> 00:13:44,358 The name of Jesus. 367 00:13:45,078 --> 00:13:46,278 I said, yeah, he's one of them. 368 00:13:47,278 --> 00:13:48,868 There's a couple others who went in there with him. 369 00:13:48,988 --> 00:13:49,558 I don't mind doing. 370 00:13:50,558 --> 00:13:51,668 Chris: Oh, that's hilarious. 371 00:13:52,598 --> 00:13:53,288 Dave: I'm a funny guy. 372 00:13:53,318 --> 00:13:54,458 He's paying me for doing this. 373 00:13:54,563 --> 00:13:56,763 My calling was not as a pastor. 374 00:13:56,834 --> 00:13:59,294 You got the five full ministerial gifts you got. 375 00:13:59,654 --> 00:14:00,014 You got. 376 00:14:00,524 --> 00:14:03,434 Prophets evangelists, pastors, teachers, 377 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,150 You have to abide in your calling. 378 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:07,340 And my calling was itinerant. 379 00:14:07,370 --> 00:14:11,420 I had to get out to the masses because the Lord didn't give me. 380 00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:16,130 Notoriety for me to sit down in front of 150 people every Sunday. 381 00:14:16,330 --> 00:14:17,980 Chris: I'd like to ask you something about Sanford. 382 00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:19,870 And Going back to your first answer. 383 00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:22,000 your father's name was Grady Wilson. 384 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Did you 385 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,100 get to name the character on Sanford and 386 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:25,240 Dave: We did rent and I, yes. 387 00:14:25,780 --> 00:14:27,340 His name was John Hill rice. 388 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:30,880 Sanford his late brother was Fred Sanford. 389 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:31,600 Chris: Fringe 390 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:32,170 Dave: G Sanford. 391 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:33,670 The G stands for gravy. 392 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:36,040 If you got it, if you ain't got no gravy, that's not what. 393 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:38,050 Chris: I never knew 394 00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:38,440 Dave: over here. 395 00:14:38,530 --> 00:14:40,450 Chris: stood for, because it seemed to change all the time. 396 00:14:40,454 --> 00:14:41,674 Dave: It depends on what he needed. 397 00:14:41,674 --> 00:14:41,914 Zoom: Yeah. 398 00:14:42,034 --> 00:14:42,964 Dave: G stands for green. 399 00:14:43,204 --> 00:14:46,654 You got any gravy then when they would have stands for. 400 00:14:46,654 --> 00:14:48,034 Chris: Oh, that's hilarious. 401 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:49,514 Dave: we did. 402 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:50,564 We named a. 403 00:14:51,674 --> 00:14:52,064 Absolutely. 404 00:14:52,094 --> 00:14:53,514 And also a Lamont. 405 00:14:53,779 --> 00:14:54,329 When Redd. 406 00:14:54,379 --> 00:14:56,329 I ran away from home. 407 00:14:56,401 --> 00:14:58,081 He joined a tramp ban. 408 00:14:58,921 --> 00:15:00,601 And his best friend was named Lamont. 409 00:15:01,351 --> 00:15:03,181 Chris: So I know from reading your book, 410 00:15:03,181 --> 00:15:06,931 You two had such a close relationship even called you son for. 411 00:15:07,741 --> 00:15:09,541 The rest of his life, from what I remember. 412 00:15:10,031 --> 00:15:10,551 Dave: Yeah, Foxx. 413 00:15:10,594 --> 00:15:11,704 He heard me at the end. 414 00:15:11,764 --> 00:15:14,344 I never voiced it, but he hurt me at the end. 415 00:15:15,064 --> 00:15:19,654 I was walking down the hall and Abernathy, who was the anchor at NBC in those days. 416 00:15:19,737 --> 00:15:21,267 Came up to me and he said to mine, how. 417 00:15:21,717 --> 00:15:22,557 How does it feel? 418 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:22,917 I said. 419 00:15:23,517 --> 00:15:23,817 Huh. 420 00:15:24,597 --> 00:15:26,227 We're walking down the hall at NBC. 421 00:15:26,227 --> 00:15:30,056 He said, No the end of an era, I said, what are you talking about? 422 00:15:30,386 --> 00:15:32,366 He said you didn't read the trade papers today. 423 00:15:32,636 --> 00:15:34,736 I said, I don't read the trade papers any day. 424 00:15:34,766 --> 00:15:35,786 What did you talking about? 425 00:15:36,056 --> 00:15:36,836 He said, read ahead. 426 00:15:36,836 --> 00:15:37,736 It was on the front page. 427 00:15:38,216 --> 00:15:40,466 Sanford and son, this is it for him. 428 00:15:40,586 --> 00:15:41,546 This is last season. 429 00:15:41,726 --> 00:15:44,606 And I was hurt because we always ran things by each other. 430 00:15:44,936 --> 00:15:46,376 When we started out, it was. 431 00:15:47,376 --> 00:15:47,886 student. 432 00:15:48,426 --> 00:15:51,936 Then it became more of a father, son relationship. 433 00:15:51,966 --> 00:15:56,396 And then later on, after the third season, It was younger brother, older brother. 434 00:15:56,896 --> 00:15:57,136 I remember. 435 00:15:57,196 --> 00:15:58,856 I went to Foxx one day and said Redd. 436 00:15:58,935 --> 00:15:59,835 He said, yep. 437 00:16:00,105 --> 00:16:00,495 Whatever. 438 00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:02,585 The people would come to Redd this. 439 00:16:02,585 --> 00:16:04,048 At Foxx, we want to do this and that. 440 00:16:04,048 --> 00:16:05,695 Go ask my son, whatever you want to do. 441 00:16:06,695 --> 00:16:07,205 Take a nap. 442 00:16:08,015 --> 00:16:09,185 Chris: Oh, wow. 443 00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:10,325 Dave: The roles are reversed. 444 00:16:10,355 --> 00:16:11,825 That's the way it's supposed to be in life. 445 00:16:11,872 --> 00:16:15,628 Men where they had a strong dad, and now he's old and feeble and 446 00:16:15,958 --> 00:16:17,668 they leave them around in the mall. 447 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:21,118 And wiping his shin when he drops, whatever he's eating and. 448 00:16:21,688 --> 00:16:23,158 That's the way it's supposed to be. 449 00:16:24,328 --> 00:16:25,738 You're not supposed to bury your kids. 450 00:16:25,738 --> 00:16:26,788 They're supposed to bury you. 451 00:16:26,968 --> 00:16:27,448 Chris: That's true. 452 00:16:27,538 --> 00:16:30,388 Dave: And your sons are supposed to take over, unfortunately. 453 00:16:30,501 --> 00:16:32,481 I don't think that's going to happen in my household. 454 00:16:33,471 --> 00:16:34,371 Chris: I'm sorry to hear that. 455 00:16:34,371 --> 00:16:34,821 Dave: The sharp. 456 00:16:35,821 --> 00:16:37,561 Chris: I think we're just about running out of time. 457 00:16:37,591 --> 00:16:39,001 Wayne, do you have any questions for 458 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:41,191 Dave: A lot of people in the world are running out of time. 459 00:16:41,311 --> 00:16:42,211 Chris: I understand that. 460 00:16:43,381 --> 00:16:44,251 Zoom: And we all are. 461 00:16:44,611 --> 00:16:44,791 Dave: Man. 462 00:16:44,791 --> 00:16:45,421 That's the truth. 463 00:16:46,651 --> 00:16:48,781 I came out to gate like booboo, Shoop. 464 00:16:49,231 --> 00:16:50,401 You said, oh my gosh. 465 00:16:50,491 --> 00:16:51,721 He would lose them on us. 466 00:16:52,891 --> 00:16:54,031 Chris: I've enjoyed every second 467 00:16:54,031 --> 00:16:54,331 of it. 468 00:16:54,641 --> 00:16:55,408 Dave: I don't have a question. 469 00:16:55,498 --> 00:16:57,008 I mean it's just. 470 00:16:57,028 --> 00:17:00,388 It's been a privilege to listen like you're right. 471 00:17:00,418 --> 00:17:04,108 And your story, what you shared, what not I'm guessing in a million years. 472 00:17:04,738 --> 00:17:06,984 But, Since I've been a follower. 473 00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:09,634 I've come across a lot of people. 474 00:17:10,114 --> 00:17:13,804 And they have a lot of different beliefs and not many. 475 00:17:13,864 --> 00:17:15,274 I've been able to articulate them. 476 00:17:15,934 --> 00:17:18,244 The way that you have saw, I really appreciate that. 477 00:17:18,994 --> 00:17:19,594 Thank you brother. 478 00:17:19,644 --> 00:17:22,678 It's a calling, I can't take any credit for anything that I've done. 479 00:17:23,158 --> 00:17:26,938 He trained me up in the theater and he said, now take those gifts. 480 00:17:27,538 --> 00:17:30,653 And take what I've placed in you, I prayed for. 481 00:17:31,253 --> 00:17:32,243 And I still do. 482 00:17:32,693 --> 00:17:35,303 Heavenly father in yeshua's, name, I pray for wisdom. 483 00:17:35,423 --> 00:17:36,503 I pray for knowledge. 484 00:17:36,593 --> 00:17:36,953 I pray for. 485 00:17:37,073 --> 00:17:37,943 Increased faith. 486 00:17:38,963 --> 00:17:39,953 I pray for healing. 487 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:41,603 I pray for miracles. 488 00:17:41,663 --> 00:17:41,753 I. 489 00:17:41,783 --> 00:17:42,893 Pray for discernment. 490 00:17:43,313 --> 00:17:46,523 Pray for the nine indwelling manifestation gifts. 491 00:17:46,853 --> 00:17:48,353 To loom large in me. 492 00:17:48,893 --> 00:17:51,708 And you have not because you asked not you received not because you 493 00:17:51,708 --> 00:17:53,658 asked him if Lord give me a husband. 494 00:17:53,958 --> 00:17:56,628 Lord, give me a way, Lord, give me a new house. 495 00:17:56,838 --> 00:17:59,708 Lord, give me a car and people say the word says. 496 00:18:00,188 --> 00:18:02,828 Whatsoever things you ask, they shall be given. 497 00:18:02,978 --> 00:18:06,670 And I've been asking, I'm not getting anything because you're not asking for 498 00:18:06,670 --> 00:18:09,040 the things that matter to the most high, 499 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:09,700 his. 500 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,450 Gifts. 501 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,870 Not this earthly mess. 502 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:14,530 Chris: Yes. 503 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,670 And that's what 504 00:18:15,670 --> 00:18:18,400 Dave: For weeks, I've been praying for the anointing. 505 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,590 Keep on. 506 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:21,490 Chris: That's amazing. 507 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:21,880 Dave: to go. 508 00:18:22,030 --> 00:18:22,480 Love you. 509 00:18:22,930 --> 00:18:24,370 Chris: Thank you so much. 510 00:18:24,550 --> 00:18:24,700 Dave: you. 511 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:25,480 Yeah. 512 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:26,500 Zoom: Have a blessed week. 513 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:26,830 Chris: Yeah. 514 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:27,460 Dave: You too.